“What do they want? What do I have that they want?… They’re meme traders, is what it is.

And I think I will be able to convince you that it has a weirdly crafted patina to it, that, the feeling is it didn’t spring from human minds, it, it is a creature of another kind of mental universe. And I think, you know, aside from the crisis on this planet and our own personal difficulties this is the real challenge of the psychedelic thing; is to meet the inhabitants and trade with them. And set up a relationship. The notion traders. They can trade hyperspacial notions from across the cosmos. And this may be all the extraterrestrial contact that we’re, uh, going to be vouch-safed, you know?“